Thursday, December 09, 2004

Up from unbelief

Drudge was good enough to break this story from ABC. It seems the prominent atheist philosopher, Antony Flew has declared himself a believer in "a" God--based on scientific evidence. No, the story is careful (as is Flew) to note that he is closer to Deism then full-fledged Theism--nor does he believe in an "afterlife" or anything like the God of Christianity or Islam.

There are other articles out there which tend to confuse the matter--one written by Flew is entitled "Sorry to Disappoint, but I'm Still an Atheist!" The problem with this article is that it is dated 2001! No, he is NOT still an atheist by his own most recent account.

Praise God, though, for every crack in the walls of unbelief. Let prayer be offered up for this man that he would continue down the path to the truth--and everlasting [after] life.
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Blogger Wheelson said...

What is truth? I hear many religious people throw that term around and I wonder how many think about what that word means.

For Flew, his idea of what was true has changed for him over the course of his life. He pondered ideas, gathered information, combined that with existing ideas, pondered some more and created new ideas. From those ideas he developed the truths that he believed in.

Does God wish for us to find our own truth? Or does God want us to find another truth that resides outside of our minds? A truth that can be found outside of our minds would be something like an Easter egg waiting to be found. That truth then would be the same for all people, for a blue Easter egg is blue to everyone, or is it? Isn't blue and idea that is in our head? Is blue the same blue for everyone?

Perhaps truths are created in our heads and are individual to us, looking different to different people. If so, how can one claim to know something is true?

As an obviously religious person, I am curious about your thoughts with regards to truth.

1:36 PM, December 14, 2004  
Blogger Mark R said...

Hey Wheelson! I must say it's good to meet another Bellingham blogger. You're comment is of course thought provoking (as intended) and I can't say I know right off how to go about responding.

I'd love to be able to pull together a plethora of supporting information as I carefully shape a thesis that would satisfy any lover of debate. However, your points and questions (and assumptions) are quite broad and numerous. I can't say I can respond all at once. However, your questions do provide a starting point and my answers, whether explained in-depth or not, can give you some idea of my way of thinking.

"Does God wish for us to find our own truth?" No. God is the source of all truth. Why should He want us to search for something that is not there? Truth is His and not ours.

"Or does God want us to find another truth that resides outside of our minds?" Yes and no. The truth is there (outside in a sense) in divinely-inspired Scripture, and yet God's law is also written in our heart's and God himself has also revealed himself to a less complete degree in nature.

"A truth that can be found outside of our minds would be something like an Easter egg waiting to be found." You describe truth as something we search for--when I'm not a searcher. We have no common core of experience so I can't rate your simile.

The fact is, I can't help but apply this whole discussion to a book I am in the middle of reading. "Escape from Reason" by Francis Schaeffer. I'm sure I will have a better understanding of what you are trying to ask when I have made more progress into this work.

Schaeffer identifies Thomas Aquinas as the first modern philosopher to separate man's fallen will from his intellect. Aquinas believed in the Christian belief of a fallen man--but not in the sense of his ability to reason. He created an autonomous intellect which could achieve rational thought without God or the truth of the Scriptures. This was the essence of the erroneous Renaissance thought.

As you can well imagine, I believe Schaeffer is spot-on in his analysis and I can hardly wait to finish a read more of his works. I highly recommend him.

I'm going to have to stop for sleep now. Hope I made some kind progress toward helping you understand my way of thinking

1:32 AM, December 15, 2004  
Blogger Wheelson said...

Yes, finding fellow Bellinghammers who have blogs is a harder task that I initially thought. I found your link via the weblogger meetup page (I think I'm the organizer, but so few are interested in a meetup that I've stopped caring).

Yes, my points were numerous and covered topics that can inspire centuries of discussion. I just wanted to get a discussion going and see how you replied.

Sometimes I wonder about just how polite it is to comment and question the opinions posted on a blog, but my first impression of your site was that you might be into it. So, down went a comment to test the waters. If you are cool with this kind of thing that's really great. If you're not, also cool, just let me know.

I enjoy dicussing these topics because it's good for many reasons that I won't bother going into because I assume we're both aware of them. I look forward to reading more and commenting more. Also your site spurs on a few thoughts that I might use as topics on my own blog, so feel free to comment there as well.

9:32 AM, December 15, 2004  

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